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Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:54 pm
by halconfenix
Klinkin wrote:(and I believe Vitulus was mentioned somewhere to have extra computing power for targeting in a separate chip).
oh.... so its actually possible to turn vitulus into the shinki version of bayonetta?? :vitulus:

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:17 am
by OHWceta
it's also not taking the time to really explore some of (what I think are) the more interesting aspects of Shinkis.
Which allows plenty for us fans to speculate.

This episode has me wondering. Are Busou Shinki able to have romantic feelings? This could have interesting implications since all the Busou Shinki are female with no male equivilant. Can there be lesbian relationships between any of the Shinki?

Also, we've discussed in previous episodes human rights and what Busou Shinki are allowed to do. I wonder if anyone has tried to marry their Shinki.

I'm also going to randomly throw out that unless those crane machines are built differently in Japan, that was a horribly innacurate portayal. They won that little hamster pack in one try, I know in American machines the crane will be right over the toy and the claws are rigged so they can't grab, forcing you to waste money on a toy you'll NEVER win.

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:31 pm
by Klinkin
OHWceta wrote:Also, we've discussed in previous episodes human rights and what Busou Shinki are allowed to do. I wonder if anyone has tried to marry their Shinki.
Oh, I'm sure someone's tried. However, a civil marriage requires paperwork and identification from both parties. Likely, any attempts to marry a Shinki would result in a similar outcome to the woman in Seattle who tried to marry a corporation. Most judges would probably decide that they didn't want to have to deal with all the ramifications and just reject it on a technicality.

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:34 pm
by Adventwings
OHWceta wrote: I'm also going to randomly throw out that unless those crane machines are built differently in Japan, that was a horribly innacurate portayal. They won that little hamster pack in one try, I know in American machines the crane will be right over the toy and the claws are rigged so they can't grab, forcing you to waste money on a toy you'll NEVER win.
They're rather accurate, that if a typical Normal person tries to play it the straight-forward way, you'll get nothing but an empty wallet. There are various tricks to snag toys and dolls using the crane in a single try, sometimes even two or three at a time. But that's the domain of Crane Machine Gods. Even in Japan, there are only a handful of them who could pull that off.

...Now, since this is in Ann's World, everything goes her way and Reality takes a back seat.

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:04 pm
by OHWceta
Likely, any attempts to marry a Shinki would result in a similar outcome to the woman in Seattle who tried to marry a corporation.
But are you talking real world where they're toys or anime world where they actually have A.I. and can move around on their own and feel emotions?

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:05 pm
by Klinkin
OHWceta wrote:
Likely, any attempts to marry a Shinki would result in a similar outcome to the woman in Seattle who tried to marry a corporation.
But are you talking real world where they're toys or anime world where they actually have A.I. and can move around on their own and feel emotions?
Both. Until Shinki start getting Social Security numbers and paying taxes, civil marriage is a moot issue. Also, I doubt any Shinki is eighteen years old. As for religious marriage...who knows. Religions do weird things.

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:28 pm
by Storm Wing
Klinkin wrote:
OHWceta wrote:
Likely, any attempts to marry a Shinki would result in a similar outcome to the woman in Seattle who tried to marry a corporation.
But are you talking real world where they're toys or anime world where they actually have A.I. and can move around on their own and feel emotions?
Both. Until Shinki start getting Social Security numbers and paying taxes, civil marriage is a moot issue. Also, I doubt any Shinki is eighteen years old. As for religious marriage...who knows. Religions do weird things.
Religions, huh... In Islam (my religion), maybe marrying a Shinki is not forbidden ^^;; No verses about NOT allowed to marry an object in Quran, but hey this is just a fantasy! XDDDDDDDDDDDD

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:36 am
by Caterwaul
Klinkin wrote:This seems to mesh with how the Shinkis have some sort of linked computer that holds widgets and such (and I believe Vitulus was mentioned somewhere to have extra computing power for targeting in a separate chip).
...Is THAT how they're explaining Vittle's chest? :D
OHWceta wrote:This episode has me wondering. Are Busou Shinki able to have romantic feelings? This could have interesting implications since all the Busou Shinki are female with no male equivilant. Can there be lesbian relationships between any of the Shinki?
I say we know they have romantic feelings, but that seems to be programmed in and dedicated to their master. Not sure if you can count that as being a true romantic experience.

I dont know about anyone else, but I was feeling some yuri vibes from the latest ep too :D But then, that was with a pair of masterless Shinki so who knows?

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:17 am
by Storm Wing
Caterwaul wrote:
Klinkin wrote:This seems to mesh with how the Shinkis have some sort of linked computer that holds widgets and such (and I believe Vitulus was mentioned somewhere to have extra computing power for targeting in a separate chip).
...Is THAT how they're explaining Vittle's chest? :D
And Ianeira's... & Graffias's... :P

Re: Busou Shinki Ep 8 Discussion - Spoilers Inside!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:44 am
by Xehn
Ianeira's are canonically buoyancy control devices.